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pH and Carp Bait Selection

July 25, 2011 shaun 2 comments

First 30 of the session.

Words by Ron Key:

Much of my thinking regarding how I approach my angling, the rigs, bait, baiting etc comes believe it or not when I am socialising on the bank. A warm night, a glass of red and good company can stimulate some interesting debate.

On a recent field testing trip for Angling Lines in France someone questioned my use of different flavours when baiting up and different combinations of flavours on multi bait rigs such as the snowman. I’ve had a lot of success in recent years with a Quest Baits Fruity Trifle/Surf n Turf combination on the hair, and it was mentioned that this combination contained the extremes in ph levels. The Fruity Trifle being acid and the Surf n Turf being alkaline.

Now I’m no bait scientist, by profession I’m an engineer and consequently I’m a practical angler and most of my successful methods are established by trial and error on the bank. The issue of pH in baits is one that interests me. Is there anyone who can explain how knowing the ph of the water you are fishing and the ph of your bait can aid bait selection? For example do I fish an alkaline bait in an acid water, or an alkaline bait in an alkaline water. Its a question that’s cropped up many times over the years and I’ve never received a satisfactory answer. So its over to you guys.

Cheers Ron

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Written by shaun about 10 months ago.

Hi Ron, as you know I like to mix baits up as well and feel it gives more of a chance of stimulating more fish into feeding. Some fish are triggered by things that other fish seem less triggered by but get them sampling a little bit of food and they will often start eating other bits they weren’t at first bothered about. This is why I like to have the odd rogue bait amongst my main feed as I feel the more food signals you can give out the more chance that one of them will stimulate a response from the fish.
As far as pH is concerned I have always worked on a big difference between the pH of the attractors within the bait than the pH of the water feeling this makes it even easier for the carp to detect the bait rather than hiding it in a similar pH to the water.
Similar to your tests I like to use totally different baits on the same hair and one of the best combinations I have used has been the Liver B8 fished in conjunction with the Special Crab. Again two very different baits in pH terms but work together superbly.
Written by Romuald Bayon about 10 months ago.

A few years ago, I also wanted to address the issue of ph. First by measuring with small means the pH of the water that I could fish. In fact, I quickly abandoned because my results were not conclusive and may be as chemistry and I were not in harmony. Now on an overall look here is what I remember. The natural food of our dear fish grows significantly when the water is basic, but so far, they are also found in acid, but significantly less. Then, assuming that the more an environment is rich in natural food, more fish can potentially achieve weight records, we reach the goal: a basic water can accommodate very large fish, much more easily than acid water. In addition, aquatic plants do not like acidic water, but more support basicity. Thus, a basic water promote the development of seagrass, and thus the natural reproduction of fish. Of course the herbs are not the only factor in reproduction. A basic water could possibly rhyme with the study of large fish ph of a water body, lake or river can help you estimate the fish stocks and the potential place to produce one or more fish trophy. The basic water seem so much more interesting prospect. They are also the hardest to address. The water is rich in natural food, fish and divert it and it will be the best baits and the best strategy to boot. By cons, a good boot in an acid medium is much more likely to be very profitable: the fish are not immune to bait deposited on the bottom, since the environment in which they swim is poor. All this is to be taken lightly because the chemistry is by far an exact science.

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