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		<title>By: dave stainforth</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave stainforth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi if your using a braided leader to nylon how long do you make the snag leader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi if your using a braided leader to nylon how long do you make the snag leader</p>
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		<title>By: liaibe</title>
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		<dc:creator>liaibe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brill site this <a href="http://www.questbaits.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.questbaits.com</a> rated to see you have what I am actually looking for here and this this post is exactly what I am interested in. I shall be pleased to become a regular visitor <img src='http://www.questbaits.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ron Key</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Key</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jamie,
       good point about the lack of indication when using mono line.  Most lines will stretch about 10% and will depending on the materials, age, properties etc. stretch to 15 -20 % before they reach their elastic limit and snap.  In practice this means that if your are fishing tight to some snags at 50 yards, the fish could move 5 yards and probably all you will get is a single beep on your alarm.  Sitting by your rods with tight lines and everything locked up will exagerate the stretching effect and minimise any indication on your bobbins, and you are leaving it to luck whether the fish comes out or not.  

Cheers  Ron</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jamie,<br />
       good point about the lack of indication when using mono line.  Most lines will stretch about 10% and will depending on the materials, age, properties etc. stretch to 15 -20 % before they reach their elastic limit and snap.  In practice this means that if your are fishing tight to some snags at 50 yards, the fish could move 5 yards and probably all you will get is a single beep on your alarm.  Sitting by your rods with tight lines and everything locked up will exagerate the stretching effect and minimise any indication on your bobbins, and you are leaving it to luck whether the fish comes out or not.  </p>
<p>Cheers  Ron</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Gillett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Gillett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim,
      Good point about the test casts and about leaving snag fishing alone until you are experienced. 

Snag fishing is probably one of the hardest forms of carp fishing in that you have to be alert all the while and ready to &#039;strike at the first bleep&#039;. 

Although all the rigs mentioned are safe, if the fish reaches the snags and a breakage occurs it will still be left with at the very least a length of line attached to it.

So as Tim points out if you are not 100 % confident that you land a fish safely from a snag (or if you fish it and lose one) then it is sensible and &#039;carp friendly&#039; to fish another area.

Cheers,
             Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,<br />
      Good point about the test casts and about leaving snag fishing alone until you are experienced. </p>
<p>Snag fishing is probably one of the hardest forms of carp fishing in that you have to be alert all the while and ready to &#8216;strike at the first bleep&#8217;. </p>
<p>Although all the rigs mentioned are safe, if the fish reaches the snags and a breakage occurs it will still be left with at the very least a length of line attached to it.</p>
<p>So as Tim points out if you are not 100 % confident that you land a fish safely from a snag (or if you fish it and lose one) then it is sensible and &#8216;carp friendly&#8217; to fish another area.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
             Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, 

In my opinion fishing any &#039;unknown snag&#039; is potentially putting the fish in danger. I say &#039;unknown&#039; snag because lots of people tend to cast to a carpy looking snag without doing at least one test cast to see if the lead can be retrieved safely.

In an ideal world, snag fishing should be left to those that have obtained a decent level of angling competence and understand and are prepared for the possible and likely eventualities when they hook a fish. Again this is just my opinion.

Jamie, Pat, Lee and Samantha all have valid and sound points but if I were to blanket the discussion with one overriding message it would be, the more we can do to lessen the chances of the fish being snagged up the better. All reasonable precautions should be taken, from sitting on your rods, locking bait runners up, though to safe end tackle and if there isn’t a safe method to free a snagged fish then it’s probably best to fish another spot. 

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, </p>
<p>In my opinion fishing any &#8216;unknown snag&#8217; is potentially putting the fish in danger. I say &#8216;unknown&#8217; snag because lots of people tend to cast to a carpy looking snag without doing at least one test cast to see if the lead can be retrieved safely.</p>
<p>In an ideal world, snag fishing should be left to those that have obtained a decent level of angling competence and understand and are prepared for the possible and likely eventualities when they hook a fish. Again this is just my opinion.</p>
<p>Jamie, Pat, Lee and Samantha all have valid and sound points but if I were to blanket the discussion with one overriding message it would be, the more we can do to lessen the chances of the fish being snagged up the better. All reasonable precautions should be taken, from sitting on your rods, locking bait runners up, though to safe end tackle and if there isn’t a safe method to free a snagged fish then it’s probably best to fish another spot. </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Simpson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Simpson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Pat and one that I must admit I had taken for granted. The only problems are that a lot of guys will fish to these snags through the night, also if the snag is a long way out and you aren&#039;t using braided mainline, then the fish will be in the snag before you get any indication on your alarm no matter how tight your set up is.  Here&#039;s an interesting exersize for anyone.
Lay out your rig on a playing field 100yards from the rod. Place the rod on your set up with bite alarm on and then walk back to the rig and lift it, pull it etc and you will see what I mean. Add water to the equation and with mono lines being more dense than water they want to sink and it exagerates this massively. Delkims will be better than conventional roller alarms for detection but still not enough to prevent the fish getting into the snag .
 I fully agree with where you are coming from Pat Carp fishing seems so much more of a social activity than it used to and a lot of anglers seem happy to be in the next peg with their mates and not watching what is happening.
I tell you what mate I went feeder fishing the other week and managed 7 carp in a few hours and if I had just been sat behind buzzers I would not have caught 3 of them as the bites were really finicky and not at all like you generally get on a bolt rig. How many times I have watched the bobbin lift slightly and hit a fish without the alarm even bleeping I can&#039;t remember.

Cheers 

Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Pat and one that I must admit I had taken for granted. The only problems are that a lot of guys will fish to these snags through the night, also if the snag is a long way out and you aren&#8217;t using braided mainline, then the fish will be in the snag before you get any indication on your alarm no matter how tight your set up is.  Here&#8217;s an interesting exersize for anyone.<br />
Lay out your rig on a playing field 100yards from the rod. Place the rod on your set up with bite alarm on and then walk back to the rig and lift it, pull it etc and you will see what I mean. Add water to the equation and with mono lines being more dense than water they want to sink and it exagerates this massively. Delkims will be better than conventional roller alarms for detection but still not enough to prevent the fish getting into the snag .<br />
 I fully agree with where you are coming from Pat Carp fishing seems so much more of a social activity than it used to and a lot of anglers seem happy to be in the next peg with their mates and not watching what is happening.<br />
I tell you what mate I went feeder fishing the other week and managed 7 carp in a few hours and if I had just been sat behind buzzers I would not have caught 3 of them as the bites were really finicky and not at all like you generally get on a bolt rig. How many times I have watched the bobbin lift slightly and hit a fish without the alarm even bleeping I can&#8217;t remember.</p>
<p>Cheers </p>
<p>Jamie</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 14:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add the type of lead clip used by Sam is I have to agree on off the safer ones on the market, to many with out modifications hang on to the lead to long another very safe one in my mind is the Nash ones as they drop the lead with ease to with out any modifications its worth considering the type of clip if you do use them and not just the fact it’s a clip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add the type of lead clip used by Sam is I have to agree on off the safer ones on the market, to many with out modifications hang on to the lead to long another very safe one in my mind is the Nash ones as they drop the lead with ease to with out any modifications its worth considering the type of clip if you do use them and not just the fact it’s a clip.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 13:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello All

The selection of rigs is one that is very often over looked, and to deny the use of a heli rig next to a snag is not in all cases to me justified, the problem some rigs is not the rig it self but the manner in which it is deployed.

For example I will happily use a heli rig close to a snag as long as there is no shock leader in use, as to me a short length on lead core 6-8 inchs attached with a needle knot to a main line is perfectly safe, my reasoning for this is in the event of a break off the line will inevitably part at the lead core main line interface, this will then allow the lead and 6 to 8 inch of lead core to drop away leaving the fish with only a small hook link that will not snag, the problem comes with some anglers liking to use long lengths of lead core which is in snag fishing dangerous.


The same rig can be used substituting lead core for rig tubing I use this to good effect on the many waters that now ban the use of lead core but to me its not the lead core itself that is the problem but the inexperienced and uneducated using it incorrectly, the big one for me in all this is the no use of shock leader while snag fishing I do regularly use shock leaders but there is a time and place and snags and heavy weed are not two of them.

I have to agree with Jamie to that Barbless hooks should be used in and around snags so the fish can free itself with out thrashing about until it opens gaping wound in its mouth while trying to free itself.

I do use lead clips myself but again its they way in which they are used that makes them safe or not, again for the snag no leader must be used with a lead clip set up, but the down side for the clip set up for me is although it may drop the lead the hook link is physically attached to the main line via the swivel so in the event of a break off the fish “should” drop the lead but may still trail line clip and hook link leaving a fair chance of a snag.

The other safety feature I like to employ here is to lower the breaking strain of my hook link, the trouble with modern angling is hook link material is in general somewhat of a higher breaking strain than that of main lines, so in the event of a break it breaks at the main line not the hook link. To me it is worth taking a look at this while fishing amongst snags as it would be better should the line part to be at the hook link and not trail clip tubing and line.

If the lake bed allows in and around snags the use of something like drennan double strength could be employed as if it gets caught up or snags once it is kinked or knotted it breaks easily, although the use of high breaking strain braided and coated hook links may give you an edge on the fish they are highly difficult to break.

My last points are really for the angler to stand back and asses the situation before applying a rig because there is not one rig that suits all situations, whether that be snags, weed or open water it is a case of finding that balance of a rig suitable to entrap our quarry but safe enough to allow him to escape should the worst happen, and also the experienced amongst us should take a little time out in some situations on the bank to educate others as some of the younger generation can and do educate themselves with the carp press and get taken in and confused by the monthly “the new greatest rig articles” again a lot of these young guys have not served “The Apprenticeship” on canals and park ponds and are taken in by shiny mags and through no fault of their own lack some vital experience.



Thanks

Keith</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello All</p>
<p>The selection of rigs is one that is very often over looked, and to deny the use of a heli rig next to a snag is not in all cases to me justified, the problem some rigs is not the rig it self but the manner in which it is deployed.</p>
<p>For example I will happily use a heli rig close to a snag as long as there is no shock leader in use, as to me a short length on lead core 6-8 inchs attached with a needle knot to a main line is perfectly safe, my reasoning for this is in the event of a break off the line will inevitably part at the lead core main line interface, this will then allow the lead and 6 to 8 inch of lead core to drop away leaving the fish with only a small hook link that will not snag, the problem comes with some anglers liking to use long lengths of lead core which is in snag fishing dangerous.</p>
<p>The same rig can be used substituting lead core for rig tubing I use this to good effect on the many waters that now ban the use of lead core but to me its not the lead core itself that is the problem but the inexperienced and uneducated using it incorrectly, the big one for me in all this is the no use of shock leader while snag fishing I do regularly use shock leaders but there is a time and place and snags and heavy weed are not two of them.</p>
<p>I have to agree with Jamie to that Barbless hooks should be used in and around snags so the fish can free itself with out thrashing about until it opens gaping wound in its mouth while trying to free itself.</p>
<p>I do use lead clips myself but again its they way in which they are used that makes them safe or not, again for the snag no leader must be used with a lead clip set up, but the down side for the clip set up for me is although it may drop the lead the hook link is physically attached to the main line via the swivel so in the event of a break off the fish “should” drop the lead but may still trail line clip and hook link leaving a fair chance of a snag.</p>
<p>The other safety feature I like to employ here is to lower the breaking strain of my hook link, the trouble with modern angling is hook link material is in general somewhat of a higher breaking strain than that of main lines, so in the event of a break it breaks at the main line not the hook link. To me it is worth taking a look at this while fishing amongst snags as it would be better should the line part to be at the hook link and not trail clip tubing and line.</p>
<p>If the lake bed allows in and around snags the use of something like drennan double strength could be employed as if it gets caught up or snags once it is kinked or knotted it breaks easily, although the use of high breaking strain braided and coated hook links may give you an edge on the fish they are highly difficult to break.</p>
<p>My last points are really for the angler to stand back and asses the situation before applying a rig because there is not one rig that suits all situations, whether that be snags, weed or open water it is a case of finding that balance of a rig suitable to entrap our quarry but safe enough to allow him to escape should the worst happen, and also the experienced amongst us should take a little time out in some situations on the bank to educate others as some of the younger generation can and do educate themselves with the carp press and get taken in and confused by the monthly “the new greatest rig articles” again a lot of these young guys have not served “The Apprenticeship” on canals and park ponds and are taken in by shiny mags and through no fault of their own lack some vital experience.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Keith</p>
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		<title>By: Pat Gillett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat Gillett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with your points Jamie, but to me the most important aspect of successful snag fishing is to be &#039;sitting on&#039; the rods at all times and to fish with the baitrunners either really tight or completely off so that you are ready to strike at any indication and stop the carp before it can build up any speed.

Most fish are lost in snags on the initial run so doing the above will stop this. I see so many anglers walking away from their rods whilst snag fishing (something which the use of remote recievers seems to &#039;encourage&#039;) that if they get a run they will have no chance of stopping it from snagging up.

It doesn&#039;t matter what rig or set up you use if you aren&#039;t in place to stop that initial run.

Cheers,
           Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with your points Jamie, but to me the most important aspect of successful snag fishing is to be &#8216;sitting on&#8217; the rods at all times and to fish with the baitrunners either really tight or completely off so that you are ready to strike at any indication and stop the carp before it can build up any speed.</p>
<p>Most fish are lost in snags on the initial run so doing the above will stop this. I see so many anglers walking away from their rods whilst snag fishing (something which the use of remote recievers seems to &#8216;encourage&#8217;) that if they get a run they will have no chance of stopping it from snagging up.</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what rig or set up you use if you aren&#8217;t in place to stop that initial run.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
           Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Angling Lines Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 10:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Snag Fishing The Safe Way...&lt;/strong&gt;


Hi All
Saw this interesting article over on the Quest Baits site by Samantha on Snag fishing&#8230;.
By Samantha

When fishing snags, tree lines or next to awkward features you will generally have more success if you place the rig tight under the tree...</description>
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<p>Hi All<br />
Saw this interesting article over on the Quest Baits site by Samantha on Snag fishing&#8230;.<br />
By Samantha</p>
<p>When fishing snags, tree lines or next to awkward features you will generally have more success if you place the rig tight under the tree&#8230;</p>
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